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? >>> but first, the body of senator daniel inouye of hawaii is lying in state in the u.s. capitol rotunda. it is an honor afforded to only 31 other people. he is the second longest serving senator by the way in this country's history. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only med
days left to act. gop still mia. joining me now from hawaii, kristin welker. was the president expected? >> we did expect that given there was no deal on the fiscal cliff that he would have to return early from his hawaiian vacation. he will be flying out late or this evening. the first lady and the first daughters continuing his hawaiian vacation. he will find himself in a similar situation. the negotiations are largely deadlocked. just to give you a sense of how we got to where we are, if you go back to last week, it seemed like the house and speaker were getting close to getting a big deal that would have included tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart. house speaker john boehner tried to get his own bill through the house. he realized he didn't have enough votes for that. that fell apart as well. the ball is in the senate's court. according to an aide, senate majority leader harry read will not bring a bill to the floor unless he believes he will not have the support to get it passed or at least not to block it. that is the strategy right now. president obama will be work
short and set to leave hawaii tonight to head back to d.c. he will avoid one pr nightmare being on vacation while the precious moments tick away. he faces another as being a president who let the country go off the cliff. if you think that's a bad thing. the senate is back in action and the house has yet to receive a 48 hour heads up to return. john boehner said he refuses to call him back if there is no deal to vote on. he has given up hope and opting to work with senate democrats to push their bill from this past summer that extends rates on those less than $250,000. he failed to get his party behind a threshold and what are the odds this bill will pass. let's get the latest read on those not going on on capitol hill. luke, what is the latest? >> the latest is that there is aides i spoke to that think there is a 50-50 chance that the senate could get a small scale agreement on the floor the next few days and possibly be passed. that gets more and more unlikely as time goes by. harry reid is gauging interest with republican and democratic senators. he doesn't want to put anythi
, shortly, saturday, flying to hawaii, as they should. and then we've got holidays. and i don't think anybody around here is going to be dealing with. we have a 72 hour period in the house. i don't understand how we're going to be able to do this before the end of the year. so on january 2nd, we're talking about $55 billion cut in non-defense and a $65 billion cut in defense. that is devastating to the economy. and it's also going to be devastating to the american people who are sitting around with those tax extenders falling away from their pocketbooks. including unemployment benefits. >> we've seen the defense and non-defense kick in in terms of reductions. and, as you said, they have a colleague who was a longer-serving senate -- senator's funeral. they're out of there on saturday. >> i think we're walking around on the edge right now. and we're not mountain goats. so we don't walk well on the cliffs. >> all you need is a slip. and we are -- we seem to have on slippery shoes at this point. congressman emanuel cleveland and congressman joe walsh, good to be with you here this evenin
to hawaii for the holidays. basically resetting the discussion for income rates at the threshold he originally wanted, $250,000 for couples. why that's important is because in previous conversations with speaker boehner, the president had moved off that number to something more friendly to the republican party, putting the number at about $400,000 and people thought that's where conversations would start today. democrats say, no, that's not the case because the speaker didn't have the membership vote on the $250,000 threshold. so this is about leverage, it's about negotiation. it's democrats going in to the meeting stronger they feel than what they perceive to be speaker boehner's position. republicans today talking about to me about various options they see and lots of conversations going on and certainly a spirit of willingness to get something done. can it get done? can it get done practically? those are the hard questions. >> yeah. after this 3:00 meeting, kelly o., will there be a document, a plan, a piece of legislation that will be carried from pennsylvania avenue to capitol
served in congress since hawaii became a state in 1959 died on monday at the age of 88. and tomorrow his body will lie in state at the capitol rotunda. a decorated second world war veteran. we give thanks for the service of both these men. stay with us. we'll have much more ahead. ♪ ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ malennouncer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> the president acts on gun violence in america while the nra searches for something to say. here are today's top lines. it takes a nation. >> i have asked the vice president to come up with a set of concrete proposals. >> myself and other americans really want to know if our babies are safe. this is my baby. >> if that's his baby, he need
hours to get the conclusion. the president's plane won't take off for hawaii probably until saturday afternoon at 3:00. there'll be the pearls if you will tied to the railroad tracks. and in the end they'll get a deal this saturday. because it looks like arithmetic at this point. it'll be $500,000 a year. how do you see it? you're a games person. you know how they're looking at this thing. >> you know, i'm not sure. we usually agree, chris. i'm not sure we see it the same way. john boehner appears to be going off his own personal political cliff. what he is doing if you just look back at the last few days, clearly it seems he and the president were dealing with each other in relatively good faith. they were compromising. they were both giving up things that were making their base unhappy. and then boehner goes to plan "b" and says they're going to vote on plan "b." now he's sticking to the plan "b" yesterday, except it sounds -- last thing i heard when i went in here is he's going to attack spending cuts. because he doesn't control his caucus, chris. he's getting such major blowback
÷Ñ÷ÑñÑ÷Ñ >>> hi. i just want to say happy holidays to my husband chris in hawaii and all of my family and friends back in louisiana. see you soon. then it happened. every boy's dream. i got called up to the big leagues. i was finally a man... on my way to shaving, driving and staying up past midnight. [ whoosh ] [ whoosh ] [ whoosh ] being an adult is overrated. [ male announcer ] holidays aren't the same without the real cream of reddi-wip. the sound of reddi-wip [ whoosh ] is the sound of joy. >>> the political conversation has shifted from the house to the senate where lawmakers are feeling the pressure f serves on the appropriations committee. she joins us now. thank you for being with us here, senator. >> thank you, richard. glad to be here. >> senator, there's a lot of talk about the fiscal cliff shifting to the senate. that's where a solution should be worked on. what have you been heard from your leadership on that? >> well, i think that everyone is going back to the drawing boards. i had hoped that we would be able to take speaker boehner's plan b and work on that with the democrats, and
to their christmas vacation in hawaii. this is "hardball" the place for politics. >>> it's official. president obama announced he would replace secretary of state with john kerry. >> i'm very proud to announce my nomination for secretary of state, john kerry. in a sense, jorn's entire life has prepared him for this role. as the son of a foreign service officer, he has a deep respect for the men and women of the state department. having served with valor in vietnam, he understands that we have a responsibility to use american power wisely, especially our military pow. >> what does today's announcement mean for the president's second term. and what does it mean for kerry's senate seat? susan milligan and robert costa. >>> susan, president obama and senator kerry have shared a unique history over the past eight years and that's something that the president referred to today. >> of course, i also have to say thanks because john invited a young illinois state senator to address the democratic convention in boston. i was proud to serve with him on the foreign relations committee under the tutelage of joe
senate. danielle inouye who represents hawaii in congress since becoming a state. he died yesterday. you might never know he was a true american hero. the 88-year-old was a medal of honor recipient who volunteered after pearl harbor even as his fellow japanese-americans were in internment camps. his unit most decorated in the war caught in a fire fight in italy and inouye shot in the stomach and wounded he continued to fight crawling up a hillside, grabbing a grenade of a wounded arm to kill the germans saving many lives. inouye lost that arm but while recovering from the wounds in the hospital he met two future senate greats. phillip hart and bob dole. they all ended up serving together. he became a key player in american political life for 50 years the vice president today swore in senator patrick leahy. third in line for the presidency. >> so help me god. >> congratulations. bittersweet moment. >> bittersweet indeed. he died with his wife and son at his side. his last word according to his office was, aloha. trusted everywhere. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] choose the sam
to say farewell to hawaii senator dan yet inoyhe. >> he was in every sense the quintessential american. he possessed every virtue that we like to ascribe. >> i'm andrea mitchell. that was a rare honor for danny inyohe. he is only the 31st person in history to lie in state in the rotunda. we expect to hear today from speaker john boehner. very shortly, in fact. the chances are he will be meeting with the president later today, but the chances for a budget agreement seem to be fading. the time grows shorter before the congress goes home for christmas. chris, managing editor of post politics.com, and nbc, capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. welcome both. chris and kelly, we've been through this before. we've seen this manufacture before, but now we are a couple of days before the christmas break, and both sides now, kelly, acknowledging that congress is going to go home for christmas without a deal. >> that's right. they are going to have to put this off in that period between christmas and new year's, and we have seen the movie that tells us deadlines are what reach results here.
in the new year after the president's back from hawaii. >> there are other complications. let's look at the calendar, senator kerry is chairing the public hearings on benghazi, and how we were talking about earlier, how awkward is that? he's chairing the hearings that take a part the state department, the department he's expected to be chairing, if confirmed. his own panel will have to confirm him. he's in conversations today with his colleagues and senator corker said on the show today earlier, as you heard, we can't hold a confirmation hearing, we won't, john kerry, my friend and colleague, as they say in the senate, until hillary clinton shows up, and she is out sick. so this means hearings in january on benghazi, too. >> that was a great question that you asked senator corker, isn't this awkward, and you're reporting on benghazi has been so remarkable since the very first day i remember you stayed up all night that night, now we're seeing with this report what an unfortunate way, uncharacteristic way, for secretary clinton to go out. she's had this fantastic run, unquestionably,
the government will present a choice presented by the party. and democrats in hawaii don't have a deep bench to choose from in congress. both of the house members are relatively inexperience. the iraq war veteran gabbard just won her seat in november and has not been sworn in yet. it is not clear who will be on the list submitted by the state party. but we learned a very piece of important information. we learned before he died, the senator wrote a very personal letter to the governor asking should he die in office, he be replaced by congresswoman hanabusa. the passing of daniel inouye >>> officials at the national rifle association still don't know what to say about the massacre of women and children at the sandy hook elementary school. but today they announced they will have a press conference at the end of this week. meanwhile, the nra is losing friends fast. >> there have been 70, 70, episodes of school shootings in the united states, since 1994. >> 54% favor stricter gun control laws. >> do we worry about dropping our kids off at school now? >> i don't know anybody that nee
that the president outlined a week ago on friday before leaving to join the family in hawaii saying he wanted to extend unemployment benefits for a lot of americans. 2 million plus beginning to lose unemployment benefits, beginning of the end of the this week and significant element, as well. the president indicated to reporters when he spoke in the reefing room last he was open to several smaller steps enroute to a smaller package and unclear what the steps look like but that's surely discussed in the conversation. >> vick, let's talk about the backdrop here. the congress least productive, on the pace to be the least productive congress in history. on pace to pass around 219 bills. 111th passed 383. the 110th passed 380. the harry truman congress called the do nothing congress passed 906. so they're extraordinarily productive compared to what we have now. >> reporter: yeah. >> talking about why in "the washington post" a couple of months and said never have we seen them this dysfunctional and criticize both parties and now acknowledge the core of the problem lies with the republican party. w
pills. >>> to politics. it's the first full day for brian schatz he was sworn in in hawaii. he's replacing daniel inouye who passed away. president obama will have to look for a new epa chief now that lisa jackson resigned. she'll officially step down after the state of the union. the chief of staff is saying, quote, put the hearts back in the closet. he remains in guarded condition at a houston hospital. >>> massachusetts congressman ed markey is the first to officially throw his hat in the ring for a special election. mark -- the democrat has never run a statewide race. scott brown is the overwhelming favorite to run on the republican side. it's that time of the year again, jib jab's year in review. ♪ big scandals everywhere ♪ we kept obama care ♪ a hard-fought election ♪ they kicked us in the year ♪ the end is here ♪ it's no yew pretending ♪ i'm not going to let this trending ♪ ♪ 2012 ♪ the end is here >>> that's just a taste. check out more on our facebook page at facebook/jans & co. >>> president obama will sit down with top leaders to try to avoid the
seek it in hawaii have a steep price to pay. the rainbow state tops a new cold well banker list of the most expensive states for home buyers. the average listing for a four bedroom two bath home going for nearly $750,000. massachusetts is about $300,000 less but still the second most expensive state. california is the third priceyest with a $430,000 price tag on average. the most affordable listings, nebraska where the average listing is about $145,000. iowa and georgia ranked second and third least expensive. those are your number ones here on "weekends with alex witt." tht a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with
to hawaii. the president may not go to hawaii -- >> come on. >> oh, stop it right now. >> there's no way. he's got to go to hawaii. it's his home! he was born there whether trump believes it or not. >> majority leader reid says he doesn't believe there will be a deal by christmas. >> partly because of the mechanics. another incentive, we're told if the deal stretches out, if there's no deal, if they're trying to fight over the fiscal cliff in january, senate democrats will be less eager to take on susan rice as the secretary of state nominee. they've said the president would win that fight. they don't want to worry about the massachusetts seat. but if they have all this stuff swap into january. >> a related issue -- >> no, i have a feeling this is not going to be related at all. >> very related. willie, what do you think the life expectancy is in new york city? >> male or female or just overall? >> anybody. what would you think? >> i'll say 81. >> it's 81. >> is it really? >> howard wolfson just tweeted -- >> i made that up. >> move to new york city. it is a remarkable thing. >> thanks. >> t
, but obama always has his vacation delayed. i was covering the president a couple years ago and my hawaii trip got delayed a couple days. life went on. >> you were not happy. >> i was, you know, i was not happy, it's true, craig. >> what's your headline, sir? "markets down, party trade blame as fiscal cliff talks fail." >> you're so gloom and doom. >> republicans don't see themselves as unruly kids and don't see obama as a wise principal, contrary to what ari was saying earlier. >> what do you think it's going to take at this juncture to get a deal done? >> i think you have to have the president show some leadership and show an actual balanced package that includes some entitlement reforms and have the muscle with his own caucus to bring that about. >> do you think it would be a advantageous to do it himself or leave it to the staffers? >> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs cr
states senate, hi rochrono in hawaii. >> as americans, when you look at the polling, how voters view the economic system, 55% think it favors the wealthy. 39% feel it's fair to most americans. so, clearly most persons think it's tilted toward the wealthy. and some people think elizabeth warren can even go for higher office than where she is now. >> that's going to be part of her power. she's already being floated, you know, as a leading presidential or vice presidential candidate. you know, most -- i think most presidential candidates in 2016 would look at warren as a presidential candidate, if she runs for president and that's a lot of power to have that out there. >> we have to leave if there. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> you thought the right wing voter suppression effort was slowing down. think again. but we're ready to fight. that's next. joe comes in a paper cup at the drive-thru. johan comes in a porcelain vessel, crafted with care by a talented blonde from sweden. ♪ smooth, rich, never bitter, gevalia. if you're a man with low testosterone, you should know
memorial sunday in hawaii. governor neal abercrombie has asked the state democratic party for a list of three names to consider to fill his seat. the senator wrote a letter to the governor telling him he wanted congresswoman-elect colleen hanabusa to succeed him in the senate. >>> back in washington, vermont senator pat layty was sworn in tuesday to succeed inouye as the senate's president pro tem putting him third in line of presidential succession. >>> meanwhile "the boston globe" reports congressman ed markey apparently has more than just a casual interest in filling the seat of senator john kerry when he, as we all are assuming at this point, leaves to become secretary of state. the paper reports that bay state residents are getting phone calls for a poll that sizes up markey's chances if he faced outgoing senator scott brown in a special election. >>> meanwhile, former massachusetts governor in 1988, presidential nominee michael dukakis tells the ""globe"" it is highly unlikely he'll be the didn't quite rule it out. >>> ted kennedy jr., a connecticut resident, is openly consider
i appreciate your patience. >>> inouye's body will be returned to hawaii tomorrow. that's going to wrap it up for me. i appreciate your time. thanks so much for joining me. i'll see you back here on monday. don't go anywhere, though. "now" comes up next, and guest hosting ari. >> we do have a strong panel today. joining me is msnbc contributor and georgetown university professor michael eric dyson. salon.com's irene carmon, and white house correspondent for the huffington post, and the daily show co-creator and author lynn winstead. we are just one week after the tragic shooting in connecticut, and the executive vice president of the nra has now broken his silence. he says it's the good guys against the bad guys, and everyone should have a gun. i disagree. if you look today at the speech that we showed just earlier here on msnbc, it's the first time since the newtown mass murder that the nra has spoken out in a speech that brought out the protesters. >> see there? several protesters interrupting. the nra did not focus on regulating semiautomatic weapons in this address, an addre
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itlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! >>> the president arrived back at the white house today from hawaii with just five days left to avert the fiscal cliff. joining me now from the white house is nbc's correspondent peter alexander. peter, we have a man and his dog roaming around that white house. what can you tell me about the conflicting reports that the president will be meeting with congressional leaders, boehner, mcconnell, reid, and pelosi tomorrow? >> reporter: that's the most festive image we have seen come from washington, d.c., is the president with his cute dog outside the rose garden, but frankly, karen, the political paralysis still exists here right now. there were reports earlier today that you noted coming from the hill, scott brown among others saying the white house was sending up a new proposal. the white house says that's certainly not the case. there were reports the white house was inviting all four congressional leaders here to the white house for a private meeting tomorrow to try to push this thing through to avert the fiscal cliff. the white house says as of this moment there is no
was just named the next senator from hawaii. back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." president obama's choice for secretary of state john kerry is expected to sail through his confirmation process, but the president has yet to name his pick for the secretary of defense. that may be because the candidate who is reportedly the white house's top choice chuck hagel could be a powder keg. he's been attacked by neocons. engaging groups like hamas and statements he's said of the israeli lobby in washington. today in the washington post a group of former security advisers all defended hagel saying he is quote, a many of unshankable integrity. far more telling comments over the weekend from influential senators. lindsay graham and the retiring joseph lieberman are hawkish on the national defense and both show trepidation about hagel. here they are. >> a lot of republicans are going to ask him hard questions and i don't think he's going to get many republican votes. i like chuck, but frankly all of them are out of the mainstream and well to the left of the president. i think it'll be a c
the newest member of the senate from hawaii being i guess he was sworn in a short timing a by the vice president joe biden, one of the folks, a lot of journalists on the hill right now keeping a close eye on mitch mcconnell's office to see if vice president biden is swinging by today and one of the ways that the two sides may be having a form of a conversation today given the fact that we believe absent the calls, the president put out to the leaders, the house and the senate, that there's been no more conversations absent those between senior staff today. >> viqueira, a little birdie around the building said there's a pool that some people are in betting on when this thing will be wrapped up. and i heard you have january 10th. i would like to know your thoughts on why you picked january 10th. i would like to know what is the outlier date in this pool and if you have any intel on who else is in the pool. >> reporter: well, i mean, i'm sure i take no satisfaction in being right in this. there's a lot at stake here and certainly we look at gambling on legislation so there's money wagered
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member, followed by alaska, hawaii and washington. the number you see on the screen right here, which is the advocacy money, that could be what's changing these traditional union states. according to the nation, we look at those numbers from 2008 to 2011, right to work money was $18 million. pro-union, just $2 million. >> thanks so much. always good to see you. that does it for me. let's go to thomas roberts. >>> good morning, everybody. coming up, we're also touching on the right to work debate. we will talk with a republican chair with the seiu who also leads a union in michigan. we will talk about big labor's plans to fight back in the wake of that devastating setback yesterday in michigan. >>> plus, walking a mile in speaker john boehner's shoes. former speaker denney hastert joining me about boehner's dance with the president on the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> and it's okay to be takei. the iconic actor joins me about his latest voyage as an activist and very, very interesting lunch with donald trump. ncer ] we begn serving handcrafted coffees in seattle, and people seemed to l
at the national cathedral on friday with another service in hawaii. >>> new jersey's governor christie's re-election campaign wants to raise $2 million by the end of the year according to politico. after hurricane sandy, his popularity is still soaring. a new national poll shows 55% of registered voters have a favorable view of christie. that's more than marco rubio and bobby jindal. >>> they got the popcorn ready. tonight, the senate will screen the movie lincoln. daniel day-lewis and steven spielberg will be there too. >>> if you read only one thing this morning, my must read is about comfort food, which we all seem to need a bit of right now. the new york times had its readers send in their favorite holiday dessert recipes and even if you don't bake, the family stories that go with them are lovely. it is up on our facebook page at facebook/jansingco. tic cap eachy helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's y
and he will be buried in his native hawaii. former senator bob dole is among those paying respects yesterday. he two met in an army hospital after being wounded in world war ii and served in congress together for almost 30 years. >>> bernie madoff's brother says he is deeply ashamed he took part in the infamous multi billion dollars ponzi scheme. peter madoff was sentenced to ten years in prison yesterday in new york on charges of conspiracy and falsifying records. bernie madoff is serving a 150 year prison term. >>> finally, we're still here. these pictures are from a ceremony led by mayan priests in guatemala marking the end of the mayan calendar, aka, what was supposed to be the end of the world. no word on what doom sayers camped out at this mountain in france are doing today. they have been there for days believing that when the end of the world came a ufo would come to the mountain and rescue them. >>> got milk? you could be in for a major shock. mandy is here with what's moving your money. prices, i saw this headline and couldn't believe it. 6 to $8 a gallon? >> it is unbeli
becoming greece. >> today, despite the president being in hawaii, the fiscal cliff is still on the agenda. kristen welker is with the president in honolulu. good day to you, kristen. what are you hearing there? >> reporter: alex, good morning to you. white house officials say this is very much a working vacation, no word if president obama has actually spoke on the congressional leaders at this point. i can tell you that conversations are going on at the staff level. but the reality is that the hard work, the final touches probably won't be put on these bills or this bill, rather, that they're hoping to get until lawmakers, the president, return to washington. and of course that won't happen until after the christmas holiday. this has a lot of people worried, alex, because as you say there's not a lot of time left to get a deal done. president obama, house speaker john boehner, were very close to getting a deal. president obama had given a little on entitlement reform, house speaker john boehner had given a lit until terms of agreeing to increase taxes. but they just couldn't get to the f
medal of honor recipient as an american hero. you had insights. >> his family had been in hawaii since the late 1800s and pearl harbor happened and dan rushed down to the harbor to treat his fellow americans with the training he got in first-aid and then when we were sending japanese americans to internment camps he volunteered for the 42ed. when he was on the dock leaving for war, his father said to him, this country has been very good to your family. you may have to die for this country and it will be a great honor for your family. he ends up saving the national guard unit, losing his arm, getting medal of honor eventually, get back to america, in a hospital room recuperating with guess who? bob doyle and phil hart, his roommates, two of the most distinguished senators in american history. they became fast friends and decided they wanted to devote their life to public service and all went home and ran for the senate and got there, one republican and two democrats. his last word before he died, aloha. we have to pay homage to him. >> we'll be right back. ♪ i'd like to thank eating r
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both be blamed for. that's why we have the president flying back from hawaii. that's why we have republicans coming in on sunday even though neither side expects it to change any. the great line in this story, the talking bint it they have is the lines of communication remain open, but all are reporting that the lines of communication may remain open but they're not saying anything. they're negotiating out loud. it's like when you send an e-mail and put your boss on it or copy the whole office. you're not trying to persuade but make your point. >> i'll never do that. richard wolf, are you still awake down there. >> i am. i go to starbucks. >> let me ask you this unearned sense of optimism that seeps out between talk of going over the cliff. we'll go over the cliff but get a deal done within the next two weeks after january 1st. why am i thinking maybe they won't get a deal done? >> right. why? because you watched these idiots try to come up with a deal sore. they didn't have an agreement with the recovery act and republicans didn't want to step up then. we're talking about two se
over the cliff. >> mike, what happens to the president's plans? he usually goes to hawaii for christmas and new year's. he'd have to stay in washington. >> i don't know that. because the president's not going to want to look like he's a captive of washington. he did stay here once before and then extended his vacation. that was part of why i've been predicting december 23rd. but these stages of grief by both sides are just going slower than they expected. they're doing the dance, but it's just so slow. so i think it's possible that nothing happens next week, that next week we get a real proposal from either side. but they're not making -- we've been talking about this for months and months. but the guys in the actual room have only been doing this for a couple days. and they're not ready to concede yet. they're still at their sort of starting gate positions. >> mike, is there any sort of quiet blue dog action on this on either the right or the left, more moderate members who are talking maybe offline who may step into the breach if there is one? >> there's a little bit, and there's cert
drive. probably one of the rainiest highways in the country. and our friends in hawaii, even they're dealing with some rain and thunderstorms from maui all the way through. so today's forecast for your wednesday, it's still mild for this time of the year especially the southern half of the country. but we've returned to normal in the northern plains. still no snowstorms on the way across the country over the next three to four days. average temperatures to slightly above. if you're dreaming of a white christmas this may be a difficult year to get it on the ground. you're watching "morning joe." [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ >>> of the congressional committee chairs selected thus far for the next congress they are all white males. >> oh,
ever have your mustache slashed. >> never trust a black man unless he's born in hawaii without a mustache. >> gene robinson, do you concur? >> is any mustache safe in the world these days? i'm scared. i'm scared. >> i don't think it is. well, congressman, how are we doing in this effort to avoid the fiscal cliff? do you think it may -- we're encouraged around here at least that the president and john boehner are going to be talking face to face. >> are we naive? >> a little bit. >> sad without a second's hesitation. >> wow! >> look, it's a simple deal, but the circumstances are not simple. and i think we're going to get a deal, on my optimistic side, we're going to get a deal. my pessimistic side is it may be later. we may do something between now and january 1st, but there is no way we're going to do what needs to be done between now and december 31st. >> is that a good thing in terms of doing the longer term? >> we've got to deal with the payroll tax, or many americans are going to end up losing about $1,000 to $1,500 a year out of their checks. we've got to figure out how to
. the president can step up and say hey, i don't want to go over the cliff. harry reid can come back from hawaii and actually go back to work. we can make that happen. we don't have to raise tacks on anyone. but what we know what we have to do is actually focus on the problem. and i think most americans are starting to understand, washington is trying to convince us that they're not taxing enough. everybody knows $1.3 trillion deficit is not a tax problem. >> congressman, again, i agree with you, but we also live, if you see "lincoln" or see what's happened over the past 200 years, we live in a divided government. that's our constitutional republic. and there are going to be tax increases. and if you do nothing, there are going to be tax increases on january the 1st. wouldn't you rather shape it than just let taxes go for everybody on january the 1st? >> that's a great question for december 31st. and that might happen. but again, where are the spending reductions? where are the entitlement reforms out of harry reid and the president of the yaunited states? i disagrees with boehner caving on taxe
arrives on time. 72 degrees he leaves in hawaii. 38 degrees he arrives to here in washington. and believe me, they're going to need to bring some of that sunshine here because there's certainly not a lot of smiles on the faces of the lawmakers as they come back. >> kurt andersen. >> chuck, this is kurt andersen. i've heard you talk how important you think it is to get a deal done in order to establish a level of comity, that's c-o-m-i-t-y. >> reporter: the other comedy is worth talking about, too. >> are you of the mind that there will be a deal sooner rather than later, like by next tuesday, or a grand bargain in order to sort of get the debt ceiling and other things out of the way for a while? >> reporter: no, i think they've got to get the large deal. and here's the thing, i still think they could get a large deal, you know, the debt ceiling -- using the debt ceiling as leverage, i think politically, by the way, republicans had totally misreading the landscape on this up with. if they think that's a good idea come february to use the debt ceiling, raising that as leverage, again, i thi
through saturday morning because a bunch of them are going to hawaii for senator inouye's funeral. >> right. >> so that shuts down any work to be done on the 22nd, the 23rd and 24th. so then they have to come back the 27th -- as little time there is, there's even less. that's my point. >> do you think that the republicans are in any way, shape or form playing differently than they have before? has anything changed? are they -- is there -- >> yeah, i think the one thing that's changed, i don't think the republican party is united. and if boehner messes around too long, i think you'll start hearing more and more senate republicans in the rank and file start to complain loudly. >> that's the other question. >> you're hearing them grumble right now, but the grumble is going well, they're all looking at it on the bright side. well, maybe boehner's trying to bring along the conservative. they're, like, giving him this last moment. >> that's the other thing. remember in 2011 when it looked really bleak right before the debt ceiling, it was mitch mcconnell who stepped in and tried to find
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